During our many conversations in my car or in the pub, Ivor said much the same to me. As high and as close to the post as you could manage was his message. As for my own efforts I can honestly claim that I never missed a pen in my life. But that was because I only took about six during my entire competitive stint . Despite being a striker, for some reason I was never given the job on a regular basis and only took them when the usual guy wasn't playing. I missed quite a few in practise though....... but not when it mattered. Practise makes perfect is the lesson, I suppose.