Andre Ayew.

Jackflash

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The morons that did that thankfully no longer have a say.
I'm still of the opinion the Yanks were behind the sacking of Laudrup. Jenkins at the time was back and forth to America supposedly seeking investment for the club, I think its fair to assume now it was the initial negotiations for the sale,and its my belief that Jenkins was instructed to get rid of Laudrup before negotiations continued. I don't think the yanks saw Laudrup as someone they could control, Monk,yes, Laudrup no. Even though he was making the club more money than they'd ever seen, at the time of his sacking we were in 4 money making competitions. It seems they were waiting for the least trivial excuse to sack him,it arrived in the form of (He was going to Bristol to see his daughter} which he apparently informed them of. Jenkins as Yankee pointed out sacked him by text. was it because he didn't have the balls, or was it because he was too ashamed to do it face to face. it had to be done if the future sale of the club was riding on it. What convinces me more on all this is Jenkins's final sentence before leaving was "I didn't want to sack Michael" To say that was quite irrelevant but he felt he had to say it, but he'd got himself into a situation where he was now controlled by the yanks and various board members who were queuing up to sell their shares. That's my take on it and I don't think I'm too far wrong.
 

ivoralljack

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I guess we'll never know the whole truth of the matter, at least until the owners have slung their hooks and pissed off. The entire episode stinks and does the protagonists no credit whatsoever. It is my fervent hope that the undiluted facts will be brought into public scrutiny when litigation has been entered against the offending parties. We loyal supporters deserve nothing less.
 

IanABS94

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A happy Borja and happy Andre will absolutely destroy the Championship. We're seeing it already; if we keep them and tell suitors in January to back off then a top 6 finish is very possible.
 

ivoralljack

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A happy Borja and happy Andre will absolutely destroy the Championship. We're seeing it already; if we keep them and tell suitors in January to back off then a top 6 finish is very possible.
Two class players who possess the quality to fire us into the Premier League. I hope they're given the opportunity.
 

Jackflash

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The attempts to force his resignation were there long before the Dyer thing. Months prior Laudrup asked for a striker,having got a huge injury list. he was refused point blank by Jenkins. Jenkins then decided himself to bring in Emnes and I think N'gog. I remember in an interview Laudrup was asked about a striker and his reply was "I think you'd better ask the chairman that question." There were definite signs to force his hands. What other board would refuse a manage a player having a huge injury list, but still in the FA Cup, still in the League Cup, still in Europe, and still in the Premiership.
I see it as the board are now aware of the secret sale and the rewards for there shares,from now on whatever Jenkins does is ok by them, and if the yanks say Laudrup goes, then Laudrup goes.
He could hardly be sacked for being low in the Premiership, as the chairman was responsible for not sanctioning a player. The best they could come up with was because he went to see his daughter in Bristol, a trip that Laudrup is on record of informing them of his intentions prior to the trip.
 
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ivoralljack

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When asked about one of the strikers, Laudrup that he hadn't even heard of him. Can't remember if that was N'gog or Emnes - probably the latter. At the time, although we were low in the PL we also weren't particularly adrift of the higher places. A win or two would have seen us comfortably in upper mid-table. Laudrup was shafted by Jenkins and Morgan of that there is no doubt in my mind but their motives for doing so? Your theory might not be too far off the mark, JF.
 

CroJack

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I'm still of the opinion the Yanks were behind the sacking of Laudrup. Jenkins at the time was back and forth to America supposedly seeking investment for the club, I think its fair to assume now it was the initial negotiations for the sale,and its my belief that Jenkins was instructed to get rid of Laudrup before negotiations continued. I don't think the yanks saw Laudrup as someone they could control, Monk,yes, Laudrup no.
Which Yanks?

Kaplan & Levien? No. The contact with them was made two years later.

Moore? No. In 2014 the club did due dillingence on Moore and he didn't fit the bill.

The decision to sack Laudrup was taken from within the club. Morgan had most of the shares and he was the strongest personality among the old owners. As much as I know everybody listened to him and he had the last word on everything. I'd like to hear the opinion from the other forum members whether Morgan was the most powerful board member or not?

There are two reasons why they sacked Laudrup:
  • They wanted to sell the club and they panicked because we were only 2 points above relegation places,
  • The club hierarchy thought we could be successful without investing in both quality players and managers. That's why Monk, Emnes and N'Gog.
Everything else was just a noise and the club's propaganda.

Laudrup, of course, knew that there was no reason to panick. There were still many points to play for, and the players were comming back from injuries. He also knew the club wouldn't be able to progress without significant investments in quality players.

The clash of personalities and egos was the result of the clash of visions and philosophies on how to run a professional football club. Amateurs on one side and a professional on the other.
 
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Jackflash

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What your saying is the club was bought almost two years later, deals involving £M's of pounds are not done in five minutes, don't you think that negotiations went on behind closed doors long before that for various reasons, ie .. keeping the trust in the dark, sorting all the illegalities that were going to occur. Explain the amount of trips Jenkins made over a long period of time to America, trips that needn't of happened if the transaction was above board, 90% of it could have been done by telephone or e/mail, but that would have meant they would have been on record.Trips we were being fobbed of by reports he was out seeking investments.all long long before the sale. Why would anyone,even for clashing of ego's want to sack the goose thats laying the golden eggs.
When do you think negotiations to sell the club to the yanks began? It has to be prior to Jenkins's trips across the pond.
Maybe if the Trust get him into court we'll both be a little more informed, but my fear is the American court representation will be far in excess of what the Trust can afford.
 
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CroJack

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What your saying is the club was bought almost two years later, deals involving £M's of pounds are not done in five minutes, don't you think that negotiations went on behind closed doors long before that for various reason
The club was bought more than three years later. The yanks took over in summer 2016, Laudrup was sacked in February 2013. One or two years is enough time for negotiations.
 

Jackflash

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The club was bought more than three years later. The yanks took over in summer 2016, Laudrup was sacked in February 2013. One or two years is enough time for negotiations.
I think you'll find Laudrup was sacked on the 4th Feb 2014.
 

ivoralljack

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Conspiracy theories abound, just ABOUND I tell you!! :LOL: Guys, I guess we'll never know the whole truth and that's the pity of it. Liars, shysters and conmen know how to cover their tracks and there seem to be plenty involved here, in my opinion. I'm hoping that most of the truth will come out in court but I very much doubt that we'll get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth no matter how big the stack of bibles they swear on. :mad:
 

Jackflash

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Conspiracy theories abound, just ABOUND I tell you!! :LOL: Guys, I guess we'll never know the whole truth and that's the pity of it. Liars, shysters and conmen know how to cover their tracks and there seem to be plenty involved here, in my opinion. I'm hoping that most of the truth will come out in court but I very much doubt that we'll get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth no matter how big the stack of bibles they swear on. :mad:
As I said earlier Ivor, If they get him into court I think the yanks will have a much more powerful legal representation than the Trust, as they have far more to lose.
 
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