Feeding the Robins

The Blobster

Prediction Champ
No, not putting out bird seed but in all probability gifting Bristol City with 3 points .
Martin in his presser confirmed that he will be sticking with Fisher in goal , saying that our January signing has no experience at championship level so unrealistic to play him instead of Fisher , SO WHY BLOODY SIGN HIM IF YOU WONT USE HIM ?
I have no doubts that this game will spoil my Sunday lunch and leave me with no appetite!
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
Martin's comment on the keeper situation makes no sense.

First, for every professional footballer there is game #1. They don't know shit having never experienced the "big" game, at whatever level it is. In game #1, they have to rely on their innate technical ability and football intelligence. It is presumed that they are physically and mentally ready otherwise what's the point.

Martin has played Fisher in preference to Benda last season, and at the start of this season until it became untenable to do so. Fisher was granted plenty of rope to get experience.

Fisher is 25 years old and 6'2. Yet he plays like he's 5'9, and makes errors that boggle the mind. Clearly, the 101 games in the EFL, FA Cup and League Cup don't count for shit. In the Experience v Ability see-saw, experience is not covering his deficiencies. He has played 37 games in the Championship at the cost of 1.73 goals per game ( 🤬 ), and L1, 62 games at a cost of 1.26 goals per game. For us there have been 7 clean sheets, so when the opposition scores, they do so at 2.13 goals per game. With these GA ratios, we either have to put a stone wall around him or have to score 2 goals per game just to draw. We have managed to erect a stone wall just 7 times.

In non-senior leagues (PL2 and FA Youth Cup), a total of 64 games, 79 goals at a cost of 1.23 goals per game,

Fisher is not being developed to cash in down the road.

Let's look at the "Kid". 22 and 6'1. Never played a senior game. His numbers in PL2 and FA Trophy are 69 games, at a cost of 1.48 goals per game, with 22 clean sheets.

I can sort of see why Martin is doing what he's doing, but FFS experience is not getting it done. I'd rather play the Kid now, before the Cardiff match, and see if he has the mettle. I can now see Martin's thinking that led to the snipe at Execs/Ownership in the Millwall post-match when he said that the Club didn't sign a keeper at the end of the transfer window. (Do you think that went unnoticed by ownership).

Question: has the Kid failed to make the grade in training? If so, why put him on the bench instead of Webb. That makes no sense either. Is Webb worse than that?

Martin is fighting for his life. He knows it. He's going with his pet because that's all he thinks he has. Bottom-line: we are relying on not being relegated and not being humiliated by Cardiff on a keeper who's only in goal because the manager believes that there's "nobody" else. And, a keeper with whom we have to score 2 to draw and 3 to win.

One last laugh: in the Bristol pre-match, Martin states that Fisher has been doing better with the ball at his feet in the last three games. :unsure:🤦‍♂️:ROFLMAO:. That's because he stopped fucking around and started playing it long most of the time when we're being pressed. Funny how applying common sense now counts as doing better.
 
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Yankee_Jack

Key Player
Benda's numbers in comparison: Championship, L2 (on loan), FA Cup, League Cup): 68 games, goals 87, cost = 1.28 goals / game.

19 clean sheets, 9 in the Championship, 9 in L2, 1 in the FA Cup. Exclude the clean sheets and Benda's numbers are still superior to Fisher's at 1.78 goals / game.
 

The Blobster

Prediction Champ
Sondergaard played today for the under 21s to get some game time . Swans beat Reading 3-1 , with Sondergaard only beaten by a penalty , for which he went the right way but couldn't keep it out .
Can't help but wonder what the score would have been had Fisher been between the sticks !
 

CroJack

Key Player
Martin's Greatest (S)Hits.

1. "Martin says the Swans and Fisher's team-mates will give the 25-year-old their full backing when it comes to dragging him through his difficult spell."

They won't. And you know why? Fisher is one of the highest-paid players in the Swansea squad, and, at the same time, one of the poorest performers, if not the poorest. Fisher earns more than Manning, Piroe, Fulton, Allen, Paterson, Oli Cooper, Cundle, Cabango, Cullen...and almost three times more than Steven Benda. I guess all these players will say "Why on earth are we going to back this donkey who is spoiling everything for us?"

And a difficult spell??? That's not a difficult spell he is going through, that's incompetence.

2. "I think Fish is in a place of acceptance that he's in a tough period, as a lot of us have been," said the head coach. "The only thing he can do is to try and use that to help him get through on Sunday as the rest of the players will, and we will. He'll be fine."

A tough period??? That 'tough period' has lasted for two years now. And, no, he won't be fine. He is not a good goalkeeper. His positioning is poor, he doesn't collect crosses, and he is poor at stopping low shots. Once again, it's incompetence we are talking about, not a misterious 'tough period'. A tough period would be an injury, divorce, ilness...

3. And when asked about Sondergaard Martin commented: "We've been on a really poor run, so to then chuck a young guy in that's never played a first team game, I'm not convinced is the answer.

One of the reasons we've been on a really poor run is Fisher. The argument that Sondergaard never played a first team game is not a valid argument. Messi hadn't played a first team game before he played his first team game.

4. "We'll help the guy through who we really believe in and brought here and is having a tough period at the moment, but really showed towards the end of last season that he can really produce at this level. Football is never linear, it's up and down."

- Martin is incompetent if he can't see that Fisher is incompetent.
- As for the end of the last season, Fisher conceded 15 goals in our last 6 games.
- Since late October 2022 our football has been linear, mostly down and rarely up.

5. "We already have the least experienced goalkeeping department in the Championship."

And whose responsibility is that?

6. "It's a position for us that has so much responsibility, not just with the hands but with the ball at their feet, and that's something Fish has done really well in the last few of games, so if he can get the balance of both he'll be fine."

Bullshit. The stats below show that Fisher has had a low % of pass accuracy, which again means he's mostly played it long in our last six games. I remember when Mulder and Nordfeldt had 100% pass accuracy in some games.

Blackburn 1:0 Swansea - Fisher's pass accuracy 72%
Swansea 1:3 Stoke - Fisher's pass accuracy 70%
Swansea 1:1 Rotherham - Fisher's pass accuracy 52%
Luton 1:0 Swansea - Fisher's pass accuracy 47%
Swansea 1:3 Middlesbrough - Fisher's pass accuracy 58%
Millwall 2:1 Swansea - Fisher's pass accuracy 79%
 

ivoralljack

Grizzled Veteran
Staff member
Just another, but glaring example, of how stubborn and one-eyed Martin can be. His refusal to accept the evidence that we all can see on here is yet another indication of how poor a manager he really is. Patrick Viera got the bullet at Palace, yet he is a far more capable manager than Martin who just can't grasp the concept that he might be wrong.
 

KVetch

Key Player
Benda was our 3rd GK for a long time, Fisher could do with some time on the bench. I would rather have a veteran like Hamer starting. Fisher can earn his place like Benda did. Too late for that I suppose. Fisher's passing stats are nightmarish. We aren't doing him any favors with defending as of late. We should be better, we have the talent in the squad.
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
Swansea City: Andy Fisher; Harry Darling, Ben Cabango, Nathan Wood, Ryan Manning; Liam Walsh, Matt Grimes (captain); Luke Cundle, Joel Piroe, Olivier Ntcham; Liam Cullen.

Substitutes: Andreas Søndergaard, Jamie Paterson, Morgan Whittaker, Kyle Naughton, Matty Sorinola, Ollie Cooper, Cameron Congreve.
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
Starting Fisher, Darling and Ntcham. Darling preferred at RB over Naughton and Sorinola. Cooper and Whitaker both on the bench. I’m deferring opinion to the end. I don’t have the energy.
 

ivoralljack

Grizzled Veteran
Staff member
Late here and the first thing I hear is the comms saying that Bristol must be wondering if they can test Fisher from this distance (presumably a free kick). Had Bristol done their homework they would have known that they could test Fisher from Oxford Street!! :rolleyes:
 
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