Borough come to town.

ivoralljack

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I suppose that could happen to any keeper - a split-second loss of focus. Not happy about it but Rushworth has a lot of credit in the bank. This will likely cost us at least a point but, let's face it, this sort of thing has happened before in football and rarely has a goal been scored from it. Blame our poxy defenders for shoddy covering. It's not that easy to score a goal in that situation....... unless your playing us that is.
 

CroJack

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We're now just four points clear of the relegation places and with a tough run of games coming up, I'm afraid we're going to be in the bottom three very soon.

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KVetch

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We're now just four points clear of the relegation places and with a tough run of games coming up, I'm afraid we're going to be in the bottom three very soon.

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That is very troubling, we haven't looked like a side that deserves relegation. We were favored in xG tonight. I think a new manager will be able to settle things down without feeling desperate to get points. We have to prepare for the possibility of players leaving in January and hopefully some incomings.
 

ivoralljack

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Unprofessional! Some twattery, rank poor defending and crap finishing all did for us. Look, I know I go on about Cullen but we just aren't making proper use of our most natural finisher. He's not starting and, when he is subbed on, it's rarely in his best position. Why do these 'lesser' managers all try to be so clever and think they can re-invent the wheel in football terms? All hoping they can be the next Pep or Klopp. :rolleyes:

Football is a SIMPLE game and one of the first things you do is to play to your strengths. One of those is selecting a team of players in their favoured, most comfortable positions where they are more likely to perform somewhere near their best. You then devise a game-plan to suit. You DO NOT have a pre-conceived game-plan then shoehorn players into it to fit.

On commentary I heard the comms refer to Cullen crossing the ball into the middle, which was too long and went out of play. Ffs, HE should be the one in the middle and we should be getting the ball into HIM! Look, I know I go on about this but I say again, do our coaches think that Trundle, Curtis, Leon et al know bugger all about football? They've forgotten more about the art of striking than any of our coaches will ever know and, if they say that Cullen is our best striker, then they should be fcuking listened to!

But I'll add this. If Liam gets fair minutes up front WHERE HE BELONGS but fails to deliver, then I'll be one of the first on here to say he should be replaced by a better man. That's football.
 

CroJack

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Unprofessional! Some twattery, rank poor defending and crap finishing all did for us.
Since Martin took over it's been the same poor defending and crap finishing. Game after game...

I know you don't agree, but 80% of these players are not good enough for this league - mentally, physically and technically. If we go down, and we're in real danger of going down this season, they'll play in the league where they belong.
 
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ivoralljack

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I DO agree. Our defence can't defend; our attack can't score consistently and our midfield do bugger all to help either of them. Throw in coaches who haven't got a clue, including making proper team selections, and you have a recipe for relegation. Sick of repeating that we need someone who 'gets' us and what we do. For me, young Tosh should be given his chance on a short term contract because he's proved that he does get us. I'm not saying he'd be a success because I don't own a proverbial crystal ball but I think he's worth a try. And I doubt he'd be any worse than the misfits we've recently employed.
 

jackodiamonds

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I still think that the only thing wrong with these players is lack of confidence and direction:

Rushworth: has been great, can easily play this level (provided today's mistake wasn't secretly a gambling thing)

Key: has been one of the best players this season, looks comfortable at this level

Cabango: Welsh international, has been asked to play in a high line too often which reveals his lack of pace. Goes back to what @ivoralljack was saying about playing a system that suits the players strengths, rather than exposing their weaknesses

Humphries: Jury's still out. I think he's a little raw, but you don't make Chelsea's team without being half-decent

Darling: Has some glaring weaknesses of which defending is one, which makes his career as a defender baffling. His long shot and heading ability and his willingness to get forward and run with the ball would make him a better midfield player or wing-back. Flawed for sure, but used properly he can operate at Championship level. Even as a bench option to score from set-pieces late in games, he has value at this level.

Tymon: 106 games with Stoke over six years proves he is Championship level. Unspectacular, but a solid citizen

Grimes: Probably Swansea's most valuable player in terms of transfer market valuation and is the division's 32nd best passer, which doesn't sound great until you realise that's 32nd out of around 365 players, which puts him the top 10%. Definitely comfortable at Championship level

Fulton: Has played Premier League. One of Swansea's best players and the man I would build the midfield around

Lowe: Couldn't quite cut it in the Prem, but the fact someone thought he could surely proves he's good enough for this division. A useful nuisance even when he's got grease on his shooting boots

Yates: Scored 15 goals at this level with a bad team. Good enough.

Paterson: Often Swansea's best player. Has never not played in the Championship, so good enough.

Cooper and Cullen: Have held their own. Need to be played a lot more to develop. Both have had bad games (this season, everyone has) but have never looked consistently out of their depth. Cooper looked very much at home as a Championship regular in the last days of Martin

Patino: As with Humphries, has Prem academy pedigree. Leads the team in assists despite not playing all the time. Good enough.

Wood: Was starting to look dominant among the defenders before his injury. I do think central defence is this teams weakest area by far however

Bolasie: Obviously a class apart, could probably play this division with covid.

Allen: Will probably never play again but is fading Prem class even now, if only he could stay healthy

Pedersen: Established Championship player, good enough

Ginnelly: Looked amazing, pity about the injury. Would be starting every game and improving the team's scoring threat by a noticeable degree if he weren't injured

Big Myk, Abdulai and Walsh we haven't see enough of. Naughton was always a Prem level player too, though surely more of a mentor now that a serious regular option.

Fisher, hate to rag on the guy, is the only player for me that isn't up to this level, though he might be if he tried playing somewhere other than in goal.

This squad isn't particularly sexy. There's not much name-brand star-power or wunderkid potential here. There's not a set identity where the team is noticeably excellent in one common area ("highly technical" or "big and fast" etc), and the horrible extreme contrasts of recent managerial appointments have shorn the teams sense of unity and direction in two.

Martin's approach was too slow and impotent, used a high line which did not suit the slow defenders, and played a system that needed better skilled players to execute. He was either unwilling or unable to change his system to suit, so the players under-perform as they are not being used properly, and how can that be good for confidence?

Duff's approach was a compromise where neither party wins - he would have played even more direct given free reign, but because of the players (and the fans), he had to reign it in a bit, giving us a non-system which wasn't one thing or another, leaving the players clueless as how to play as a unit, leading to inevitable bad results, which once again destroys confidence.

This team has become dysfunctional through misuse. Get a level-headed manager without an ego and with a clear vision that can work given the available players, and this lot will be fine.

If it were my call, I would hire Jimmy Thelin, sell Grimes, and use the money to buy two fast centre backs.
 
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