Managerial stupidity

ivoralljack

Grizzled Veteran
Staff member
We've been highly critical of our managers on here and rightly so. The most recent glaring example, of course, was the 'brilliant' decision to alienate Morgan Whittaker before selling him for the derisory fee of just £1 million. Didn't ANYONE at our club see the potential of a player who currently tops the goalscoring charts in the Championship and whose valuation is now considered, in a few short months, to be TWENTY times what we sold him for.

There must be retarded amoebas on some distant planet with more intelligence than the collective brain-power to be found at the Liberty. And it isn't as if Whittaker is achieving success at a top club flush with quality players to help him. He signed for Plymouth Argyle for God's sake, a club, with all due respect, that's probably not as good as we are in terms of potential and past success.

There's an arrogance about football people, particularly among coaches/managers, an arrogance that irritates me and puzzles me. They believe that because they're lucky enough to be earning a living from the game, they know far more than those who don't. WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! That's a complete and utter fallacy and we see glaring examples on a weekly basis of so many who are strictly limited in terms of their cerebral capacity and ability to do their jobs.

Even the best can be guilty of making crass, totally erroneous decisions about the ability of certain players. In another post I commented that Chelsea were stupid enough to sell Mo Salah AND Kevin de Bruyne believing them not to be good enough for the club. What a bunch of dimwits!! What did that cost them long term? And you'd expect a club of their stature to be employing the best judges in the game. In reality, what do they know?

And Chelsea are still at it. I read today that they sold Nathan Ake to Muff for £20 million who then sold him to Citeh for £41 million. Today, Ake is valued at £51 million. But listen to this - the managers WHO DID NOT RATE Ake were, Rafael Benitez, Jose Mourinho, Guus Hiddink and Antonio Conte!!! These are TOP managers who should know what they're doing. Or do they really? They make mistake after mistake before getting sacked and getting another job that pays them millions more. Okay, I get that many clubs have advisers/directors dealing with transfers etc but many of them are as equally culpable as the managers.

But it's just not the selling of players where they make so many mistakes, it's also the buying of them. Time doesn't allow me to to go into this but just take Manchester United as an example of one of the many clubs who've paid vastly inflated fees and wages for bog-average players worth just a tiny fraction of their outlay. And as for Chelsea, they've paid the best part of a BILLION POUNDS to assemble a team of garbage players. I could go on.......

Bearing all this in mind, the football world would do us all a favour if they'd stop being so condescending, so patronising to their fans and others who do not work in football for a living. Remember that there is a far higher level of intelligence and knowledge outside football than in it. Remember that these fans will know a lot more about the game than you think they do. And remember that sometimes some of them will know more than you.
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
This is SOP - standard operating procedure - unfortunately at too many businesses not just football clubs. Just because you own it doesn't mean you know it. The biggest business failure at most clubs is that managers and now directors of football in conjunction with head coaches and scouts think they know more than they collectively do. There are a couple of scenes in Money Ball where Bean, in a meeting with is scouting staff, is trying to buck collective "wisdom" of people that "know" when all they are spouting are platitudes and feel good sayings handed down through the generations. There are no metrics for leadership, or character, or personality. Another great movie is Draft Day - the setting is the day of the NFL draft - it's not really about football, or sport, or the NFL; the story examines the character or lack thereof of key individuals in the story line, and how this makes a difference and should make a difference.

Bottom line is that there is little to no accountability to get it right; and those that think they know more often than not get it wrong. Which, leads me to Jenkins who season after season managed to pick the next best manager with such remarkable success (up until Monk) that statistically speaking he was performing a miracle. We need a few miracles - even a little one - and after listening to Williams' pre-match interview today, this guy is still praying for one as his favorite key word "bravery" appears to be the key to the magic kingdom. It boggles the mind. Bravery is not something you can coach into anyone, especially when the "brave" act the coach is after goes against the grain of everything the players have ever been coached to do. "Bravery" does not cancel out the downside of recklessly ignoring or being oblivious to what's going on around you; of not forgoing defensive best practices that your autonomic systems have been programmed to do through countless hours of repetition. For example, bravery is not turning your back when an opponent shoots but instead standing up and taking one for the team - it is not technique, it is character - you just can't coach out the flinch reflex.

I've rambled on ... but stupid is as stupid does and we see it time and again.
 
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Yankee_Jack

Key Player
The other unrecognized, or perhaps it is but remains unspoken, failure in operations is hiring a coach to implement a particular playing style or philosophy - THAT BELONGS TO THE COACH AND NOT THE CLUB. This is absurd from a business perspective. It can take multiple transfer windows to acquire the squad, potentially tons of cash, the off-loading of "dead-wood" to lighten the payroll along the way. And, the "dead-wood" may not really be as dead as various stakeholders and "experts" thought (e.g. Morgan Whittaker), resulting is an oh-shit loss. And, before the "project" is complete the once shiny new manager may have become persona non-grata and out the door (leaving Yates behind). And, the best way to the originally targeted destination may not be a straight line but a series of zig-zags. 🤷‍♂️

This points to critical failures at the Club in not properly vetting and assessing the coaches' goodness of fit, their flexibility, their ability to deal prudently with the squad on-hand rather than the squad in their delusion, their manic obsession with taking a direct path rather than zig-zag as needs require. All of our past 4 managers / coaches (Cooper, Martin, Duffer, Williams) have been guilty of this to some degree ... the Square-Peg-Round-Hole fixation ... "I can coach them to be proper round pegs". The Martinez, Sousa, Rogers, Laudrup sequence didn't suffer from this - they were proper coaches. Neither did Monk for the most part ... his chief problem was that nobody liked him and the way he came to "power" and all the best players, any players with options, bailed on him and the Club.

Williams' key word is "bravery". Borrowed from Madness ... or did Madness steal it from him. Who cares? It's a meaningless concept in tactical and technical terms. We're now stuck with a lack of "bravery" as the excuse du jour. Not sure how I would think about that as a player. I think my gut response would be FU. You want me to do what? And because it's obviously flawed and goes against my grain, and instinctively I recoil when required to do it in a match then I'm not brave. I'd be biding my time to do a Ducks if he ever stepped into a practice.
 
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ivoralljack

Grizzled Veteran
Staff member
Remember that practice you saw under Martinez(?) when Painter and Pintado went at it. Something like that, only more along the lines of Pintado v Savage. It would properly define "bravery".
Can't remember who was manager tbh, but it might have been Sousa. Pintado was very tetchy under Sousa because he was being flogged to death in a solo role up front. If it was at that time, Pintado was in no mood to take shit off anyone let alone a team mate in practice. I'd like to see some of his attitude in the team today.
 
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