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[Jackflash]

And Gomis, but that was the start of the one dimensional style of play under Monk. Luckily for us, when Montero was found out we had another great provider of perfect crosses in Siggy. Last season when we had neither of them in the squad our strikers Bony, Abraham and McBurnie scored less than ten goals.

Regarding Gomis, he was criticised for his continued off sides with us,but having watched just about all his games with Galatasaray it was more down to our midfield being unable to time his runs, 90% of his goals coming from down the middle,very few from crosses. but out here they have his runs timed to perfection.

 

[Behindthegoal]

I would also had that Taylor's insistence on overlapping Montero into the space Montero needed to take on and go past a defender really tended to fuck things up.

Taylor overlap? I don't think I saw him do that since Scotty left, and then it was only for him come inside.

 

[Borini]

He got a nose bleed everytime he crossed the half way line.. and needed to go back to the corner of the box where he kept his hankie.

 

[ivoralljack]

Sky is stirring up our links to Tom James again.

This from WOL:

Swansea City are weighing up a move for Yeovil Town defender Tom James, according to reports.

Sky Sports claim that the Swans have already made an enquiry for the full-back, but are facing strong competition from Championship rivals Hull City.

The Swans were linked with a move for the former Cardiff City man back in March , and were even mentioned as favourites to clinch a deal in this window, despite alleged interest from Celtic and Bournemouth.

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It's unclear just how strong the interest is from Swansea, but it's understood that any potential move would rely on taking some of the club's higher earners off the books first, including Alfie Mawson, Kyle Naughton and the Ayew brothers.

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[ivoralljack]

I think we have an interesting squad of players ... if we can keep the likes of Amat and Montero and bring on some of our U23 then I think we could give most of the league a very hard time. Montero skinning a FB and crossing to McB has got goal written all over it.

At the Meet the Manager session tonight, Potter said that Montero is headed back to the club but is being delayed by visa problems. (Should pay his bill. He can afford it ) No doubt he'll take a look at Montero in training and then make a decision.

 

[Yankee_Jack]

Our first team squad currently has 24 names on the web site. This includes the full complement of returning loanees - Borja, Montero, Amat, Fulton, McB and Grimes. Only two keepers are named.

So, we are currently one shy of a full senior age squad. We have 9 domestic players listed. At this point Roberts and McB are not U23, they're bona fide senior squad members. If anybody crocks or leaves we are going to have to have some U23 step up or we're going shopping.

As it is, this appears on paper a better group of players than Rogers had ... although Rogers inherited a squad that was playing Swanselona like it was part of their DNA and we then added Sinclair and Graham to that mix and it blossomed. Will the Wizard (Potter) be able to get the current squad to find a higher gear than they did last season and play a cohesive possession game with a sting that scores goals. I have to say that I'm tentatively quite optimistic. I want to see how we do against Eibar in the tournament. There is going to be some serious competition for CB, and in the #9 role and supporting forwards. Our midfield however seems quite mundane. It's about time that the Fulton's of this world kick-it into gear.

 

[Yankee_Jack]

According to Potter ... we have 4 crocked (Mawson and Clucas due back in Aug, Fer in Sept, Bony who knows). Borja is AWOL in Spain. Montero stuck on the border.

We're kinda fucked if any of the big money seniors leave.

Amat is still here ... what's the matter with Betis.

Time for Rodon, James, Byers, Malic and perhaps others to setup up and make roles their own.

 

[JonesyJack]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport...city-championship-transfers-signings-14877352 It's WO so pinch of salt and all that but Joe Hart? Not that Nordfeldt fills me with confidence but i think Hart's confidence would have taken a massive hit after being left out of the WC squad

 

[Behindthegoal]

There's a right back out there, free agent, PL experience , QPR are interested according to the Sun.
Name Rangel, good luck Angel, hope you get a job.

 

[Yankee_Jack]

We currently have, by my reckoning, 20 players over 21 years old on the first team squad on the website. This is a massive shortage of players never mind senior players. To this list you have to add Harries, Maric, Baker-Richardson, Blair, because they are over 21 and therefore seniors. I presume the squads have to be finalize by Aug31 when loan period closes, so if we want to to add depth to our squad we had better loan in now or a good chunk of last seasons U23 Team will be in our first team squad.

Rodon, Asoro, Dhanda are under age and so can play but are not part of the seniors in the 25.

If I have all this correct.

 

[CroJack]

Rodon, Asoro, Dhanda are under age and so can play but are not part of the seniors in the 25.

If I have all this correct.

You can have 17 players under 21 in your first team squad if you want, but 8 have to be over 21 and homegrown. I don't think all 25 have to be over 21.

 

[Ladygargar]

On FB rumours abound that Fulton is leaving on loan? Surely fake news??!!

 

[Yankee_Jack]

@CroJack ... my understanding reading from season's past is that the 25 man squad is about senior players with a minimum 8-man domestic contingent. Meaning that a 25 man squad of senior players (players over 21 by the prescribed date) must be named from all such players under contract to the club and not out on loan. This implies that you can only have a short squad (< 25) if you don't have sufficient number of senior players on your books. Players under 21 are not named in the squad because they fall under the ... you can play an unlimited number of under age players part of the rule.

What I have always interpreted this to mean is that if we had over age players in the U23 squad, as we do now, then they are named to the squad to fill out the 25 man list as far as possible ... whether we would ever pick them to play or not. So currently, I was surprised to learn that Baker-Richardson is over age (thought he was younger) ... if there's a slot open when we have to submit a final list to the league, and he's the only over age player left to name, then he's on the list.

It behooves us to add some depth to the squad via loans or free agents or we had better trust in the likes of list that I mentioned. Quite happy with Rodon, so if the others are of similar par then we're light in experience but long on talent.

 

[CroJack]

@Yankee_Jack , the only two requirements for the 25-man first team squad are a) that the players have a professional contract, and b) that 8 out of 25 are homegrown and over 21 years.

Apart from the homegrown rule there isn't any other rule about the age of the first team squad players. You can have 17 players under 21 in your first team squad, and additionally use as many as you want who are also under 21, but you always must have eight homegrown players who are 21+.

What is important to mention is that the clubs don't need to name their star players, who are under 21, in the first team squad - they can still use them and, at the same time, have 25 older and experienced players. If they have 10 stars under 21 then they practically have a first team squad of 35 players, which is important for some clubs who fight for the Premier League Title, Champions League title and cup titles. They need depth. Leroy Sane and Foden don't need to be named in the Manchester City's first team squad, it's totally up to Pep Guardiola. He would be stupid to do that when he can use them whenever he wants.

 

[CroJack]

The 25-man list has to be submitted latest on 1 September at 5 pm.

 

[Yankee_Jack]

I am digging into the EFL rules (https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations) and found the following requirements ...

33.8 Home Grown Players. Each Club shall be required to nominate a minimum of seven Home Grown Players on their Team Sheet of Players for all League Competition Matches (including Play Off Matches).

33.11 Club Developed Players. Subject to Regulation 33.12, with the effect from the commencement of the 2018/19 Season each Club shall be required to nominate at least one Club Developed Player on their Team Sheet of Players for all League Competition Matches (including Play Off Matches). Where any Club does not name a Club Developed Player on the Team Sheet, that Club will only be permitted to name up to six substitutes on that Team Sheet (rather than the seven as permitted by Regulation 33.4).

Also, unlike the EPL, an EFL club can register as many 1st team players as they like. There is also no restriction on how many loan players a club can register. However, a maximum of 5 loan players can be on a team sheet.

The plot thickens ...

 

[CroJack]

Home Grown Players. Each Club shall be required to nominate a minimum of seven Home Grown Players on their Team Sheet of Players for all League Competition Matches (including Play Off Matches).

Yeah, it's seven, not eight.

Also, unlike the EPL, an EFL club can register as many 1st team players as they like.

I don't understand this one. No 25-man squad rule?

 

[Yankee_Jack]

Yeah, it's seven, not eight.

The rule says 7 on the team sheet. I could find no reference to 8 in the squad.

I don't understand this one. No 25-man squad rule?

I found no reference to it. There are paragraphs about player registration, paragraphs about Home Grown, nothing about naming a squad of 25.

I think we’re still working with the Prem paradigm. The 7 domestic on the team sheet poses an entirely different challenge and set of squad composition and selection constraints. I am wondering what this might have done to drive transfer activity.

 

[CroJack]

The rule says 7 on the team sheet.

Interesting. Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester City didn't have 7 homegrown players on the team sheet last weekend.

Again, here is what I've found, but this is for the Premier League, and notice there is nothing about team sheet:

"At present, Premier League clubs are allowed a maximum of 25 players in their first-team squad.

If teams want to take full advantage of that maximum player allowance, eight of them must be homegrown.

The rules state that teams don't have to fill their 25-man squad.

If, for example, a club have only six homegrown players, they will not be penalised as long as they keep their squad size at 23 players or under."

https://www.google.hr/amp/www.goal....e-how-does-it-work/1mww3y06t775v1a7c6139l53ji


So does the same rule apply to the Championship?

 

[Yankee_Jack]

@CroJack .. check out the main link in my post above to the EFL regulations. They are different from the EPL in many areas.