Which Keeper?

[ivoralljack]

Good article in WOL about our two keepers and the readers comments make an interesting read. What do you posters think? Mulder for me.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport...citys-puzzling-goalkeeping-situation-15261776

 

[Yankee_Jack]

Agreed ... Mulder for me too.

 

[The Blobster]

Absolute no brainer.

Nordfeldt even got lucky with the save with his foot against Wigan , he was poorly positioned , showing far to much of the goal to the striker who should have done better with a poor finish. His poor flap at a weak header ( which he could have held or pushed away) against Ipswich was the final confirmation for me that he should be sold in January , we have plenty of keepers on our books.

 

[LittlePuma]

Mulder is the right call. Although, to be fair, our CBs were really poor last weekend which did Nordfeldt no favors.

 

[The Blobster]

Mulder is more vocal and organises those around him , Nordfeldt just stands on his line and hopes someone clears the ball away !

 

[CroJack]

Mulder is a better all-round goalkeeper. He is calmer, his positioning is better, he has excellent reactions, and he is much better in the air.

 

[Behindthegoal]

Norfeldt was OK when he was number 2 to Fab, also when he considered himself number 1 this season. Unfortunately he can't hack the pressure of trying to regain his position. GP will have a trick up his sleeve to make them both consider themselves team mates, not rivals. Trammel could give them a few tips.

 

[Ladygargar]

After Saturday I don’t think there’s too much debate on who should be our No.1 going forward.......

 

[Jackflash]

After Saturday I don’t think there’s too much debate on who should be our No.1 going forward.......

As I said on another thread, are Potters hands tied due to game time in Nordfeldt's contract? Possibly a new contract was undertaken due to Fabianski's departure.

 

[Ladygargar]

There must be some reason for it - I think the consensus amongst the fans is that Nordfelt for whatever reason at the moment is simply not a safe pair of hands - to be fair he has made some cracking saves but my heart is in my mouth when opposing teams get near

 

[LittlePuma]

I feel at this point Nordfeldt has had a decent run of matches to be fairly evaluated. It’s time to put Mulder back in. I’d look to the window to loan Nordfeldt out and try to find a new backup keeper.

 

[Borini]

Potter speaks at last..
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport...raham-potter-reveals-reasons-swansea-15390211

 

[Yankee_Jack]

This is the problem ...

Kris is more on his line making saves, he has a range and speed of passing with his feet which is a quality of his.

A keeper that is pinned to his line and doesn't understand or is comfortable playing away from the line to capture the ball, narrow angles, or assert himself physically is a liability ... and frankly Nordfeldt is good but not so good nor consistent with his feet that it overcomes a failure to cut out the cross ball against Rotherham that led to the first penalty. The command of his goal area and surrounds and his ability to play angles off his line is the thing that makes a keeper a keeper and makes the lives of defenders sooo much easier.

When I think back over the keepers that we have had for us over the last 50 years I can't think of anybody that would have been beaten by that Rotherham situation. More often than not the keeper would have handled the ball before it reached the position of the forward or come through punching the ball taking out the forward with him and today (at least) earning himself a free kick.

 

[Behindthegoal]

Potter has very cleverly highlighted the merits of each goalie. Earlier on in the season he hinted that he would pick the keeper better suited for a particular match, like Wigan, which he mentioned. It's difficult to marry that strategy with giving them a long run of games, however.
I think you're being charitable to a number of our goalkeepers of the last 50 years, Yankee!
I suppose it's unfair to mention any who played before the back pass was banned - a different job then - but I've seen similar mistakes by Fab, Michel and Willy - most of the time defenders got them out of jail.

 

[jackodiamonds]

The superior distribution line is a complicated argument. A pass has three components - the passer, the receiver, and any opponent in a position to intercept. Who has been playing in the outfield for each keeper? If the outfield players can't make the ball stick on long range passes, is it the keepers fault? When I think about the two keepers, it is Nordfeldt who I remember shanking passes, not Mulder.

 

[Behindthegoal]

The superior distribution line is a complicated argument. A pass has three components - the passer, the receiver, and any opponent in a position to intercept. Who has been playing in the outfield for each keeper? If the outfield players can't make the ball stick on long range passes, is it the keepers fault? When I think about the two keepers, it is Nordfeldt who I remember shanking passes, not Mulder.

The key is making time, innit? My personal impression is that Mulder has time to roll out to his centre backs, Norfeldt needs an extra faff before doing so and his receivers have been closed down.

 

[jackodiamonds]

The key is making time, innit? My personal impression is that Mulder has time to roll out to his centre backs, Norfeldt needs an extra faff before doing so and his receivers have been closed down.

Excellent observation. Also, it occurs to me that early in the season when Mulder was in goal, Potter was playing McKay and Asoro a lot, and those guys are not going to haul in a goal kick the way McBurnie playing wide will (which I think he has done with Nordfeldt in goal)

 

[CroJack]

Since we started playing from the back both our goalkeepers have been excellent at distributing the ball from the back. In Mulder's last game for us, before Nordfeldt took over, he had 97 % passing accuracy. In the very next game Nordfeldt had 100 % passing accuracy. Such passing accuracy only Manchester City's Ederson has.

It is difficult to compare Mulder's 3,3 saves per game with Nordfeldt's 1,9 saves per game - they played different opposition and we played different style of football. Since Nordfeldt came back we have had more possession and we have dominated our games, so he has't had much to do.

I prefer Mulder because he is much calmer than Nordfeldt, he is taller, he is better at catching crosses and his positioning is better.

 

[Behindthegoal]

Educate me, guys. When is a pass not a pass? To any back - pass? A yard over the head of L/R wing - not pass?
Is the key factor whether or not the ball leaves the ground?
Is there a statto book of definitions I should read?

 

[Yankee_Jack]

@CroJack .... Nordfeldt hasn't had much to do, but when he needed to get it done ... not so much.

And that's the critical thing .... kicking a ball out is all well and good, but when it comes to being a keeper versus a proxy defender then he has to get it done.