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Jackflash

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You guys have incredible memory. I remember things from my past just in flashes but nothing in such a great detail. You remember the names of the players who scored in a game played 40 years ago??? Wow. I thought only women have such a perfect memory :oops:
Once sold a car to an Egyptian brain surgeon at our local hospital in the late 60's and became quite friendly, raised this memory question with him, his reply was. The easiest way to explain it is if you bought a new typewriter the ribbon images on the paper are bold ,as it is used the image gets less and less clear, eventually needing a new ribbon, unfortunately we cant do that with your brain. YET. Always remembered that.
 

ivoralljack

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Remembered a few more things from the games I watched. Kenny Sansom was a studio guest with Terry Venables when he was a bright-eyed, bushy-tailed youngster of 18 years old about to embark on a hugely successful career. Went on to become one of the best LBs in the world earning 86 caps for England between 1979/88. Sadly he became addicted to gambling and alcohol after he finished football and became something of a down and out sleeping on park benches etc. Fortunately his friends in the game rallied round and helped him out. Don't know how he's faring these days.

Another funny thing was the commentator saying that now Stamford Bridge had completed part of its redevelopment it could now accommodate 34,000 which meant gate money of £30k a time. He said it as though it were a fortune. How times change!
 

Jackflash

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I actually read an article on Kenny Sansom a month or two back Ivor.. apparently he spent a long term in hospital after being beaten up by thugs last year, he's made a reasonably good recovery, but is unfortunately suffering from a brain disorder.
 

ivoralljack

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Still watching the old games. Brian Moore calling Graeme Souness (playing for Boro then) Suwness instead of Sooness :D; lots of West Ham and other London teams shown and what a player Billy Bonds of Hammers was. He played 663 games for them having earlier made 95 appearances for Charlton. This guy was perpetual motion and played all over the pitch in any position; should have racked up loads of caps. The only time he was selected he got injured beforehand and was never capped. Amazing! He was so good. Frank Lampard Sr was also a superb LB, two footed but stronger on his right.

The "where are they now" feature was about John Atyeo of Bristol City. Oldies will remember him. He scored an incredible 351 goals in 645 appearances for them and 5 goals in 6 games for England. He was a brawny no-nonsense striker but had a brain as well, training to be a quantity surveyor, which meant that he actually played as an AMATEUR for most of his career and only ever trained twice a week. He'd have been some player had he done it full time, eh? :D He went on to become a maths teacher after he finished with football. I saw him play a few times.

What strikes me about football then is that it was so....... honest. Yes, honest is a good word to use. Despite it being a much tougher game then with thunderous tackles made on mudbath pitches, players never dived, never squealed when they got hit and actually threw the ball to the opposition for a thrown, corner or free kick if it was closer to them. There was none of this petulance and cheating we see so much of today. But I had to laugh when, during one particularly nasty, rough match between Leeds and Sheffield United, the commentator said, "I have to say it's pretty obvious that certain players on both sides have singled out players from the other side for some rough treatment". I reckon players of today would have slunk off the pitch sobbing their hearts out had they been kicked up in the air like that!! :ROFLMAO:

Final word about those shocking hairstyles. Long hair and curly perms were very much the fashion then and some players wore it well. But others. Oh, my God!! They insisted on long hair but they just didn't have the hair to do it. Some had lank, thin hair and when it was long it was like a bunch of rat's tails hanging down. It looked awful!! Surely their WAGS or mothers must have said something to them but obviously not. My wife wouldn't have let me step out of the door looking like that let alone appear on telly in front of millions. Mind you, I had a cracking head of hair back then, very dark and almost Afro. It's not like that today for sure, but there you go. :)
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
We're conducting a fund raising exercise today ... James (1m), Lowe (1.5m), Roberts (5m?). We'll know the Roberts fee when the Club files the factor financing chit with Companies House - I doubt Burnley will drop cash.
 

ivoralljack

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We're conducting a fund raising exercise today ... James (1m), Lowe (1.5m), Roberts (5m?). We'll know the Roberts fee when the Club files the factor financing chit with Companies House - I doubt Burnley will drop cash.
Roberts £2.5 million. Fucking scandalous!! :mad: Those bastard Yanks are flogging our players for whatever they can get whilst the going is good. PLEASE, Trust, get that litigation moving as quickly as you can, we need to hurt those fuckers one way or the other. Lowe is worth a damned sight more than 1.5 as well!

Glad that Dan's got a decent move - Bielsa will know how to use him whereas OGS didn't seem to have a clue. Anyone rate Jadon Sancho? He doesn't look like a £73 million player to me. Ok, it's early days yet but he hasn't impressed me playing for England either. He'd better come good at that sort of money for sure.

Think we missed a trick with Ben Woodburn too. The youngster (21) has been unlucky with injuries but now signed for a season-long loan at Hearts. He has huge potential that Martin with his coaching could have brought out. Woodburn is versatile and can play as a striker or out wide and I'm amazed he's been allowed to go and rot in Scotland. Think our scouts must be asleep.
 

ivoralljack

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Congrats to Marc Guehi who has been appointed captain of the England U21 team and also to Rhian Brewster who got his first goal for the team from the penalty spot in a 2-0 win against Kosovo. Okay, I know it's England but well done anyway, lads, you JBs. :)
 

ivoralljack

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Enjoying The Big Match Revisited. Saw ex Swan Dave Rushbury playing for Norwich against Toon. Remember him anyone? And Tommy Craig was playing for Newcastle. Then there was big Latch as a youngster in his Brum days before his British record transfer to Everton for £350k. He had two brothers who were both keepers - Dave also played for Brum and Peter for WBA. Bob is the only player to score against a sibling in a football league match scoring twice, I presume against Peter.

Already seen Leighton James playing and scoring for Derby and recently doing likewise for Burnley. Had to laugh when in one game a player went down near the goal line and looked in serious pain. Today that would have involved a cast of a thousand medics, motorised stretchers and God knows what else. In this particular game, the trainer came on and with the help of two team mates just lugged the player by his legs over the line for attention while the game restarted and carried on. They bred them tougher in those days! :D Oh, and I saw my old mate Clive Thomas reffing one game.

Final note which will amaze some. Presenter Brian Moore said "we are now going to watch big spending league leaders Stoke play (whoever) and no doubt they will continue to play the brilliant flowing football that's taken them to the top of the table." Times really have changed, eh!! :ROFLMAO:
 

ivoralljack

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I see Wales have made their usual pig's guts of trying to beat a so-called 'inferior' team. They were pathetic and failed to score after 20 shots (6 ot) against a team that had conceded FIVE IN EACH of their three previous qualifying games. I mean, just how bad is that?

Imo, it all stems from a manager, decent guy though he is, who is totally not qualified to do this job. His previous appointments? Was he not sacked at Port Vale and Northampton those massive hotbeds of top quality football? It seems you have to be a complete and utter moron to have a place at the FAW.

If they needed an interim manager why didn't they call on Chris Coleman who might well have agreed on a temporary basis. Even Tosh Sr would be more qualified than Page; and there must be several hundred other people who'd have a better idea of how to coach at this level than the present incumbent. But not our FA. They went for the cheapest, most convenient option, which I guess left more money in the kitty for their own junkets.

We are a third rate football nation because of them and the likes of England would put six or seven on us now without breaking sweat. Bungling, self-serving amateurs doesn't begin to describe them! :mad:
 

CroJack

Key Player
I see Wales have made their usual pig's guts of trying to beat a so-called 'inferior' team.
Here are the highlights from the second half.


Bale had two big chances and fluffed them. Roberts one-on-one and failed to score. That's three big chances. I mean, you have to score from at least one of these chances.


 

ivoralljack

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And Harry Wilson blew a sitter in the first minute. We don't deserve to progress and I'll lose no sleep if we don't. But Page had a number of sub-performers to hook and he took the wrong options. Joe Allen had a stinker and Morrell wasn't much better, so they should have gone early doors second half. I get that we were missing Connor, 'Sicknote' Ramsey, Brooks and Keifer Moore etc but he still had decent options on the bench and ignored them.
 

Jackflash

Midfield General
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Enjoying The Big Match Revisited. Saw ex Swan Dave Rushbury playing for Norwich against Toon. Remember him anyone? And Tommy Craig was playing for Newcastle. Then there was big Latch as a youngster in his Brum days before his British record transfer to Everton for £350k. He had two brothers who were both keepers - Dave also played for Brum and Peter for WBA. Bob is the only player to score against a sibling in a football league match scoring twice, I presume against Peter.

Already seen Leighton James playing and scoring for Derby and recently doing likewise for Burnley. Had to laugh when in one game a player went down near the goal line and looked in serious pain. Today that would have involved a cast of a thousand medics, motorised stretchers and God knows what else. In this particular game, the trainer came on and with the help of two team mates just lugged the player by his legs over the line for attention while the game restarted and carried on. They bred them tougher in those days! :D Oh, and I saw my old mate Clive Thomas reffing one game.

Final note which will amaze some. Presenter Brian Moore said "we are now going to watch big spending league leaders Stoke play (whoever) and no doubt they will continue to play the brilliant flowing football that's taken them to the top of the table." Times really have changed, eh!! :ROFLMAO:
On reading that Ivor, it prompted me to think how far back I could remember Swans players, I think it's fair to say I was dragged to the Vetch on a Saturday afternoon by my father and one of my elder brothers at the age of 5, rather than having to go shopping with my mother, this went on for about 5 years.
Some of the names I remember springing up back home after the game were Mc Crory Feeny, think they must have been defenders as they always seemed to be blamed for goals conceded, Then there was another name that always seemed to get praise, Frankie Scrine, I remember his full name as he was never referred to as Scrine, always Frankie Scrine. This is all now some 70+ years ago, anyone have any recollections of these names.?
 
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