Alan Tate

ivoralljack

Grizzled Veteran
Staff member
Reading that he has joined Steve Cooper at Forest and I actually wish him well. He was offered a non-job with the Swans so I don't blame him for looking to further his career. I had great respect for his attitude as a player and he proved to be a long-serving servant of the club. However, for me, my memories of him will forever be tainted by the part he played in the back-stabbing of Michael Laudrup. The despicable actions of those involved, imo, borne out of a sense of revenge because they were past their best and no longer part of Laudrup's plans, are probably the reasons why the club is in such a parlous state today. I'm afraid this is one case where I can neither forgive nor forget.
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
Agree on all that.

It didn't take Martin long to find him a way to look for an exit. Now if Martin can just get his head on straight with some of the players and be just as keen minded then we'll be a lot better off.
 

CroJack

Key Player
Now if Martin can just get his head on straight
Or stop speaking in a monotone voice. It's impossible for me to maintain any interest in what he is saying. I tune out - quickly. I mean, his pre- and post-match interviews are real communication killers.


His messages fall by the wayside, and I am sure even if people did hear them, they wouldn't believe them. People who speak in a monotone voice are often perceived as untrustworthy and boring. Or even shifty.

Listen to this. It's called a tired voice.

 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
When watched back ... "It's not as bad as it felt at the time" ... WTF. It was a fiasco on an individual and team level.

He does believe his blarney. He trots out the same lines over and over again, almost like its rote, like its a tape being played back.
 

CroJack

Key Player
He does not seem to be comfortable in front of the camera.

"It's not as bad as it felt at the time" ... WTF. It was a fiasco on an individual and team level.
And a managerial level.

I agree with him but he should've communicated the message better than he did.

It was 10 minutes of poor defensive football and individual mistakes in the first half, and 10 minutes in the second. The rest was pretty good. But these 10 minutes must not happen.
 

Jackflash

Midfield General
Staff member
Reading that he has joined Steve Cooper at Forest and I actually wish him well. He was offered a non-job with the Swans so I don't blame him for looking to further his career. I had great respect for his attitude as a player and he proved to be a long-serving servant of the club. However, for me, my memories of him will forever be tainted by the part he played in the back-stabbing of Michael Laudrup. The despicable actions of those involved, imo, borne out of a sense of revenge because they were past their best and no longer part of Laudrup's plans, are probably the reasons why the club is in such a parlous state today. I'm afraid this is one case where I can neither forgive nor forget.
Agree with most of the above, but I could never bring myself to wish him future luck in football. Being part of that trio along with Monk and Williams that backstabbed probably the best manager we ever had. None could take telling from a football genius on defending, thinking they knew it all.
Monk is now managerial history, Williams, history. And I think just a matter of time before he and Cooper suffer the same fate. Although I was a big critic of Cooper, I believe he gave it his best shot at the club. Sadly not good enough. and have no qualms n wishing him a future, but possibly in the lower leagues.
The fact that Cooper is being acclaimed to be the expert with bringing on youngsters detracts from the fact that his international youth team were all youngsters from top academy clubs, the job was already done for him..
 

ivoralljack

Grizzled Veteran
Staff member
I wished Tate good luck purely on his displays for us in the lower leagues. He was never a top or higher level player but he gave his all for us as a lower league player. That said, I feel the word 'legend' is far over-used in football. Ivor, John Charles, Cliffy Jones, Curt, Robbie and others were true legends and I find it laughable, if not almost offensive, to bracket Tate with the likes of those.
 
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