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Latibeaudiere pulls up with a hamstring injury .
2021-22 Finale: QPR @ the Liberty
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The Blobster
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Corey Smith to replace Latibeaudiere
Yankee_Jack
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isn’t one of the U23 on the bench a defender. Give the kid a game
The Blobster
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0-1 ball over the top and we are fucked again
The Blobster
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Poor end to the season , I expect the same crap next season , can't see the yanks not selling Piroe, fingers crossed for some decent new faces .
Yankee_Jack
Key Player
Result and game mirrors the season as a whole …. Flattering to deceive.
lame effort, lamer result. Lamest of our 4 seasons in the Championship.
Retrograde. Surely ownership can see that this was a step backwards. As critical as we were last season over Cooper and how he managed, Martin makes Cooper look like a god. How is that even possible, but he did.
GD -10. Conceded a whopping 68 goals. Finished the last 5: DDDLL how dismal
in almost every category a step backwards. How can you take a squad, supposedly weakly managed, that was in the playoff final and turn it into this. Note, I didn’t say Cooper badly managed, that would be unfair and not defendable, but weakly managed in that it could have been done better. Martin has badly managed the squad he was given. Given Sousa’s squad … he would have had us at the bottom of the table. Blessed with a 24 goal scorer and another forward that scored 9 or so once he started to be picked, Martin turned a silk purse into a sow’s ear. WTF.
what makes it even more tediously annoying is that we saw last season’s solid performers marginalized and let go. Double WTF.
lame effort, lamer result. Lamest of our 4 seasons in the Championship.
Retrograde. Surely ownership can see that this was a step backwards. As critical as we were last season over Cooper and how he managed, Martin makes Cooper look like a god. How is that even possible, but he did.
GD -10. Conceded a whopping 68 goals. Finished the last 5: DDDLL how dismal
in almost every category a step backwards. How can you take a squad, supposedly weakly managed, that was in the playoff final and turn it into this. Note, I didn’t say Cooper badly managed, that would be unfair and not defendable, but weakly managed in that it could have been done better. Martin has badly managed the squad he was given. Given Sousa’s squad … he would have had us at the bottom of the table. Blessed with a 24 goal scorer and another forward that scored 9 or so once he started to be picked, Martin turned a silk purse into a sow’s ear. WTF.
what makes it even more tediously annoying is that we saw last season’s solid performers marginalized and let go. Double WTF.
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Yankee_Jack
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If I was an owner I would be chairing some very pointed and uncomfortable for some meetings in the next few weeks. There is no way that any strategic plan and forecast before the season modeled this outcome, it wouldn’t have been accepted on paper at that point in time. That we went from 2020-21 to this needs an autopsy … we have a carcass of a season on the table and it needs an autopsy to figure out why it ended up dead. Constraining repercussions and accountability are contracts and financial overhang. But, performances have been less than acceptable in an number of operational areas and those responsible need to be recalibrated. If the same level of underperformance repeats next season, starting from where we are now, down we go and that is not acceptable. The same piss poor planning and activation of the plan at the end of last season, start and duration of this, cannot be repeated.
Behindthegoal
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Martin must be some martinet. There’s no way that a seasoned professional like Naughton would go through that goal kick routine unless it was a sacking offence to refuse. And all it does is delay for few seconds Fisher’s kick into touch.
Yankee_Jack
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How do we know Benda is moving on close season
Yankee_Jack
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Post-Match interview, minute 7+ …. Martin : “it was never going to be a quick fix”. We played in the playoff final the previous season, WTF, needed to be fixed? We needed to improve. We needed that upward adjustment to be automatically promoted or win the final. It speaks volumes of his arrogance and lack of grasp of what he inherited and what had come before to believe he had to fix anything.
he produced a massive deficit from the previous season …. He didn’t fix anything. He created a problem. And Andy Pandy rubbed his nose in his shit big time twice.
he produced a massive deficit from the previous season …. He didn’t fix anything. He created a problem. And Andy Pandy rubbed his nose in his shit big time twice.
CroJack
Key Player
Reported in WOL.
AT LONG LAST!! Now back online but it took an Open Reach engineer about an hour to do it. I'm just hoping that I don't get any more problems. I listened to the game but, obviously, was unable to post comments at the time so I'm doing it now because what I have to say is interesting..... I hope.
Ian Walsh was absolutely scathing about our performance, which is unusual for a Swan's commentary and a far cry from the benign, 'better not upset the applecart' stuff you get from the club commentators. He was angry and vitriolic about our display and I list below some of his comments and adjectives used in no particular order:
(About Fisher and also defenders playing from the back) - he's gone walkabout; what's he thinking of? that was NEEDLESS; this is RUBBISH; PATHETIC; they keep overplaying; worst performance I have witnessed from any team this season; I'm FRUSTRATED, ANGRY; could have conceded 2 or 3 goals just playing out; honest to God, this is DRIVEL!; SAME mistakes keep happening; do we EVER learn?; playing the ball in dangerous areas to team mates under pressure; still passing the ball between ourselves in the final minutes instead of getting it in the box to grab an equaliser; this was supposed to be a transitional season but we haven't been getting any better we've become WORSE; we look TIRED compared to QPR; bodes badly for next season; repeated that we keep making the same mistakes; suggested Russell Martin takes a hard look at himself and his tactics because NO Plan B and we concede far too many goals from the tactics we use.
WOW!! Talk about giving it both barrels!! Used a machine-gun more like! I have NEVER listened to a commentary so scathing about any team anywhere. Ian Walsh is one of our former players (for younger posters) who actually scored the goal against Wolves back in the day that took us to the TOP of the First Division, so he's a professional who knows what he's talking about. He cares and it shows.
Someone must have mentioned this commentary to Martin and surely there are people at the club who are saying much the same thing. But will Martin take any of this on board? I get the impression that he's a stubborn man and insists on his way of doing things. That's fine providing it gets results and we show progress. But we on here don't agree that we've shown progress. And Ian Walsh certainly doesn't!
Ian Walsh was absolutely scathing about our performance, which is unusual for a Swan's commentary and a far cry from the benign, 'better not upset the applecart' stuff you get from the club commentators. He was angry and vitriolic about our display and I list below some of his comments and adjectives used in no particular order:
(About Fisher and also defenders playing from the back) - he's gone walkabout; what's he thinking of? that was NEEDLESS; this is RUBBISH; PATHETIC; they keep overplaying; worst performance I have witnessed from any team this season; I'm FRUSTRATED, ANGRY; could have conceded 2 or 3 goals just playing out; honest to God, this is DRIVEL!; SAME mistakes keep happening; do we EVER learn?; playing the ball in dangerous areas to team mates under pressure; still passing the ball between ourselves in the final minutes instead of getting it in the box to grab an equaliser; this was supposed to be a transitional season but we haven't been getting any better we've become WORSE; we look TIRED compared to QPR; bodes badly for next season; repeated that we keep making the same mistakes; suggested Russell Martin takes a hard look at himself and his tactics because NO Plan B and we concede far too many goals from the tactics we use.
WOW!! Talk about giving it both barrels!! Used a machine-gun more like! I have NEVER listened to a commentary so scathing about any team anywhere. Ian Walsh is one of our former players (for younger posters) who actually scored the goal against Wolves back in the day that took us to the TOP of the First Division, so he's a professional who knows what he's talking about. He cares and it shows.
Someone must have mentioned this commentary to Martin and surely there are people at the club who are saying much the same thing. But will Martin take any of this on board? I get the impression that he's a stubborn man and insists on his way of doing things. That's fine providing it gets results and we show progress. But we on here don't agree that we've shown progress. And Ian Walsh certainly doesn't!
CroJack
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It's good he aired his frustrations. As you know, everything he said is exactly what we have been saying all season, but nobody listens what we have to say, so hopefully the club hierarchy listened to Ian Walsh.
Yankee_Jack
Key Player
Martin's Madness. Straight jacket time. Andy Pandy come back, all is forgiven.
It will be interesting to see what sort of pre-season we have and even more interesting as to how we perform in the first few games. I guess much will depend on the players we keep such as Piroe, Oba, Downes etc and what sort of players we bring in. We have to assume that the owners will flog Piroe at least as they have 'needy' investors to look after. So, quite where we'll replace his 24 goals is beyond me.
I understand that RM is very keen on the MK Dons CB but how long will it take him to adjust to the far higher standards and demands of the Championship? And that will certainly apply to any other players we recruit from the lower leagues because I doubt very much that the offal who own our club will pay so much as a penny piece of their own money to allow us to buy some quality.
Obviously RM can only work with what he's got but it's become apparent that he needs to be working a whole lot smarter with them than he has and that he needs to up his own game in a big way. We shall see.
I understand that RM is very keen on the MK Dons CB but how long will it take him to adjust to the far higher standards and demands of the Championship? And that will certainly apply to any other players we recruit from the lower leagues because I doubt very much that the offal who own our club will pay so much as a penny piece of their own money to allow us to buy some quality.
Obviously RM can only work with what he's got but it's become apparent that he needs to be working a whole lot smarter with them than he has and that he needs to up his own game in a big way. We shall see.
Just been catching up on stuff I've missed when off-line. Came across a statement from the club about our financial situation as follows:
"The directors are committed to facilitating the provision of funding necessary for investment in players, coaches and management to ensure the team is competitive," read a segment of the strategic report, signed off by chief executive Julian Winter, on the club's latest accounts. It went on to add: "However, this funding is dependent on player trading and/or external investment."
What a crock of shit of a statement! They are taking us for fools!! When the owners bought the club they were interviewed on TV and asked if funds would be available for player investment IN ADDITION to what they paid the Judas Tribe for their shares to buy the club. The answer was an unequivocal YES. The question, of course, referred to their OWN money, NOT money generated by player sales but have we seen a penny piece of their own cash? Not as far as I can see.
In addition to the usual revenue streams including the parachute payments, the club received well in excess of £100 million pounds from player sales alone. We did, of course, spend some of that on replacing them but only a small fraction of what we received. So I have to wonder where the balance went. Of course, we know the Covid crisis hit every club including our own but before that, as far as I could tell, the owners had invested bugger all of their own cash as they had promised. That still seems to be the case.
If they had any sense of honour in terms of keeping their word, not only would they retain our best players but would add to them from their own resources. But they have been funding player investment from player sales from the moment they poked their greedy snouts through the door. As long as they retain possession I can't see that ever changing.
"The directors are committed to facilitating the provision of funding necessary for investment in players, coaches and management to ensure the team is competitive," read a segment of the strategic report, signed off by chief executive Julian Winter, on the club's latest accounts. It went on to add: "However, this funding is dependent on player trading and/or external investment."
What a crock of shit of a statement! They are taking us for fools!! When the owners bought the club they were interviewed on TV and asked if funds would be available for player investment IN ADDITION to what they paid the Judas Tribe for their shares to buy the club. The answer was an unequivocal YES. The question, of course, referred to their OWN money, NOT money generated by player sales but have we seen a penny piece of their own cash? Not as far as I can see.
In addition to the usual revenue streams including the parachute payments, the club received well in excess of £100 million pounds from player sales alone. We did, of course, spend some of that on replacing them but only a small fraction of what we received. So I have to wonder where the balance went. Of course, we know the Covid crisis hit every club including our own but before that, as far as I could tell, the owners had invested bugger all of their own cash as they had promised. That still seems to be the case.
If they had any sense of honour in terms of keeping their word, not only would they retain our best players but would add to them from their own resources. But they have been funding player investment from player sales from the moment they poked their greedy snouts through the door. As long as they retain possession I can't see that ever changing.
CroJack
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No way. Andy Pandy is not good enough, and his football is not sustainable in the long run. We need a manager who plays progressive football, and that's neither Martin nor Cooper.
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