Optimistic look at the run-in

jackodiamonds

Set-Piece Specialist
Staff member
6 games left. Here's the table:

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6th is the only playoff spot realistically up for grabs.

Swans are 4 points off, as are Preston North End, every team has played the same number of games.

PNE have dreadful recent form and are dive-bombing, while Blackburn and Millwall have an extra point to find, so lets count those teams out for the sake of simplicity.

Let's consider Cardiff, Derby and Swansea are in a three-horse race for 6th.


Swansea's last 6 fixtures:

H Sheff Wed (12th, dodgy recent form)
A Birmingham (17th, poor recent form)
H Leeds (1st, reasonable form)
A Nottm Forest (4th, reasonable form)
H Bristol City (12th, poor form)
A Reading (16th, poor form)


I figure 12 points from these 6 games might be enough. Leeds and Nottm Forest are the obvious tough fixtures, but if Swansea are serious about making a playoff push, they have to beat the rest, who have almost nothing to play for. Also, none of these teams are showing good form (neither are Swansea of course).


Cardiff's last 6 fixtures:

A Bristol City (12th, poor form)
H Blackburn (10th, poor form)
A Fulham (5th, so-so form)
H Derby (7th, excellent form)
A Boro (20th, so-so form)
H Hull (22nd, terrible form)


If I'm Cardiff, I want 12 points from these 6 games too, especially given Derby are on a hot streak. However, Fulham will be tough and the Derby match is a 6-pointer which can help Swansea - any winner will set the loser back and allow an opening for the Swans, a draw puts both teams back and still leaves an opening for the Swans. Also, the games against Boro and Hull look easy but are trap games - both Boro and Hull have one game in hand at the time of writing, and both are scrapping to avoid relegation. The Boro game is a double-trap game for Cardiff because of the Warnock factor.


Derby's last 6 fixtures:

H Nottm Forest (4th, reasonable form)
A West Brom (2nd, poor form)
H Brentford (3rd, excellent form)
A Cardiff (6th, good form)
H Leeds (1st, reasonable form)
A Birmingham (17th, poor form)


This is where it gets really interesting. Derby might be on fire at the moment, but five of their remaining 6 games are against top-6 teams, including the 6-pointer with Cardiff. They also face the greatest number of in-form teams, and the single "easy" match v Birmingham might be a dead rubber by the time it rolls around.


I know the Swans draw v Millwall felt like a season-ender after the loss to Luton, but there's still a workable chance to make the playoffs. Derby are toast - sure, they've hit form, but they'll struggle to come away from that run-in with more than, say, 9 or 10 points. The 6-pointer between Cardiff and Derby gives the Swans an edge because it either seriously weakens one of Swans competitors, or semi-seriously weakens both of them. Plus, Swansea easily have the softest run-in - mostly mid-table teams with nothing to play for.

A bit of hwyl from the boys and they could legitimately sneak in, though I think hwyl is in short supply at the moment.
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
Optimistic indeed. You are as you do ... and we haven't done too much so far, which doesn't auger too well for the future.
 

CroJack

Key Player
Even if a miracle happens, and we are 6th at the end of the season, we will probably meet Brentford in the play-off semi-finals. We don't have a chance.
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
Whatever we are paying Andy Pandy it's way too too much. We don't appear to have any tactical plan to attack the weaknesses and nullify the strengths of the opposition. We don't appear to play to our strengths ... neither in the way we pass to players, nor in the way we to support players with the ball. And our quality ... always suspect ... is just rank. With the exception of Ayew and Celina (when he shows up to play) we don't have anybody with the nous and desire to take opposition players on and beat them. I find that stunning at this level. Nobody wants to take responsibility. Nobody wants to drive situations, to dictate the play with hustle and tempo. Against Millwall, Ayew was dropping back into deeper midfield to look for the ball and then try to create something going forward ... he shouldn't have to do that. What the f**k do we do in practice.

Players that were absolutely busting a gut under Potter (e.g. Roberts) have gone backwards, woefully backwards. Whatever flair and drive Garrick had when he first appeared has been coach out of him under Andy Pandy.

In short, I'm sure you could go and get any stiff coaching a Welsh League club with a coaching badge and get equal or better performance out of this squad.
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
I'm trying to be optimistic ... I really am ... but ...
Defensive duo to miss remainder of season | Swansea

Wilmot crocked for the rest of the season. Rodon is done as well. And VdH is long shot to regain fitness and contribute.

So ... we are now left with just Cabango and Guehi; and I guess a couple of unders ... can they possibly be greener than Cabango and Guehi.

Anybody fancy a kick-a-bout at center-half. Qualifications: built like a brick shit house, run (preferably fast), jump but if you're really a BSH just stand in the way, look like you know what you're doing (don't worry it's not that hard most of the rest of team manage to do it). Oh yes, be able to scream at the fucking midfield to chase back when they gift the ball around the half way line, and if they don't then don't let them on the bus to go home.

Forgot one important thing ... act like Windham ... get tight, kick first, ask questions later ... and it's never a foul if you do it (honest ref!).
 
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KVetch

Key Player
What he writes about is Millwall's tactics, not Swansea's, which doesn't surprise me - we don't have any tactics. We are so predictable, and opposition managers don't have to be geniuses to make us impotent in attack and vulnerable in defence.
That's what I thought. I don't know what tactics we used.
 

KVetch

Key Player
I'm trying to be optimistic ... I really am ... but ...
Defensive duo to miss remainder of season | Swansea

Wilmot crocked for the rest of the season. Rodon is done as well. And VdH is long shot to regain fitness and contribute.

So ... we are now left with just Cabango and Guehi; and I guess a couple of unders ... can they possibly be greener than Cabango and Guehi.

Anybody fancy a kick-a-bout at center-half. Qualifications: built like a brick shit house, run (preferably fast), jump but if you're really a BSH just stand in the way, look like you know what you're doing (don't worry it's not that hard most of the rest of team manage to do it). Oh yes, be able to scream at the fucking midfield to chase back when they gift the ball around the half way line, and if they don't then don't let them on the bus to go home.

Forgot one important thing ... act like Windham ... get tight, kick first, ask questions later ... and it's never a foul if you do it (honest ref!).
That's bad. At least Guehi will get his minutes. That puts the offensive and defensive game on Roberts and Naughton.
 

jackodiamonds

Set-Piece Specialist
Staff member
They've just earned 3 points against Bristol. Now they need 3 wins, which is realistic. We can't catch them anymore.
That's not mathematically true though is it? If Swansea win tomorrow, they're 4 points back with 15 points available from the remaining 5 games and an easier run. Plus, Derby drew which means a Swans win tomorrow will leapfrog all the other teams and put Swans 7th. Of course Cardiff can be caught.
 

CroJack

Key Player
That's not mathematically true though is it? If Swansea win tomorrow, they're 4 points back with 15 points available from the remaining 5 games and an easier run. Plus, Derby drew which means a Swans win tomorrow will leapfrog all the other teams and put Swans 7th. Of course Cardiff can be caught.
You are right, my prediction is not based on maths but on gut feeling, which is again based on the data from this season:

1. In only two games this season we didn't have to struggle to earn points. One of them is Birmingham, and another one is Middlesbrough. In all other games we had to labour.

2. We are losing games and points to bottom league clubs. Therefore I wouldn't say we have an easier run than Cardiff.

3. Apart from Cardiff (1:0 at the Liberty), since August 31, and our lucky win against Leeds, we haven't been able to beat a current top ten side.

4. Here are the games we have won since August 31 (again, I am not counting 1:0 win against Cardiff):

Charlton twice
Middlesbrough twice
Wigan twice
Luton once
Huddersfield once

All these clubs are and have been in a deep crisis. Sorry @jackodiamonds , I can't share your optimism.

5. Last time we won two games in a row was in December. Before that in August.

6. Our poor current form. In last 12 games we have two wins, six draws and four defeats. Out of 36 points we have earned miserable 12 points. 1 point per game. And that's a relegation form. Exactly what bottom two Barnsley and Luton have earned this season. At this rate we'll get 6 more points. Mind you, Cardiff are 4 points ahead, which means they'll need 3 more points to stay ahead of us.

7. We have 57 points from 40 games. That's 1.425 points per game. At this rate, we'll get 8.55 points, let's say 9 points. In this case Cardiff will need only 6 points to stay ahead of us.

8. Since September 1 we have earned 41 points from 34 games. That's 1.2 points per game. Had we earned 1.2 points per game in our first six games this season, we would have had 48 points now and we would have been 18. in the league table, only 4 points from the relegation places.
 
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KVetch

Key Player
You are right, my prediction is not based on maths but on gut feeling, which is again based on the data from this season:

1. In only two games this season we didn't have to struggle to earn points. One of them is Birmingham, and another one is Middlesbrough. In all other games we had to labour.

2. We are losing games and points to bottom league clubs. Therefore I wouldn't say we have an easier run than Cardiff.

3. Apart from Cardiff (1:0 at the Liberty), since August 31, and our lucky win against Leeds, we haven't been able to beat a current top ten side.

4. Here are the games we have won since August 31 (again, I am not counting 1:0 win against Cardiff):

Charlton twice
Middlesbrough twice
Wigan twice
Luton once
Huddersfield once

All these clubs are and have been in a deep crisis. Sorry @jackodiamonds , I can't share your optimism.

5. Last time we won two games in a row was in December. Before that in August.

6. Our poor current form. In last 12 games we have two wins, six draws and four defeats. Out of 36 points we have earned miserable 12 points. 1 point per game. And that's a relegation form. Exactly what bottom two Barnsley and Luton have earned this season. At this rate we'll get 6 more points. Mind you, Cardiff are 4 points ahead, which means they'll need 3 more points to stay ahead of us.

7. We have 57 points from 40 games. That's 1.425 points per game. At this rate, we'll get 8.55 points, let's say 9 points. In this case Cardiff will need only 6 points to stay ahead of us.

8. Since September 1 we have earned 41 points from 34 games. That's 1.2 points per game. Had we earned 1.2 points per game in our first six games this season, we would have had 48 points now and we would have been 18. in the league table, only 4 points from the relegation places.
Isn't that tragic, without that 7 game start (including the cup game and preseason friendlies we had a great run of 11 or so games. The starting XI wasn't that different, we had

Woodman
Naughton Rodon VdH Roberts
Grimes Fulton (Byers)
Dhanda Celina Ayew
Borja

The players haven't changed, the manager needs to fix the faults and mistakes.
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
We also had McKay and I don't think Ayew was available until late Sept / early Oct.

These were still players that hadn't yet been fully Andy Pandy'd. They were still Potter's people and Borja was still carrying the habits of his loan spell.
 
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