Mindless Morons

Borini

Key Player
What is going on with people running on the pitch to attack players? Do they want fences back?


As for the Brummie toe rag, he didn't even hit him properly!
Hope someone in s nice police cell showed him how it is done properly!!
 

Jackflash

Midfield General
Staff member
What is going on with people running on the pitch to attack players? Do they want fences back?


As for the Brummie toe rag, he didn't even hit him properly!
Hope someone in s nice police cell showed him how it is done properly!!
Doesn't say a lot for the large section of the crowd that applauded his actions either.
 

Jackflash

Midfield General
Staff member
Birmingham FC say they will ban him for life, I fail to see how this is possible. Unless they have face recognition equipment on every turnstile. Are staff expected to remember a certain face among maybe 20/30 thousand fans.
Police have the only facility to ensure that,and that's to have him in custody at a police station every game.
 

CroJack

Key Player
Birmingham FC say they will ban him for life, I fail to see how this is possible. Unless they have face recognition equipment on every turnstile. Are staff expected to remember a certain face among maybe 20/30 thousand fans.
"The democratization of mass surveillance is upon us. Insanely cheap tools with the power to track individuals en masse are now available for anyone to use, as exemplified by a Forbes test of an Amazon facial recognition product, Rekognition, that made headlines last month."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...ion-cost-just-10-and-was-worryingly-good/amp/
 

Jackflash

Midfield General
Staff member
That's a cheap bit of equipment CJ. Reading through its not quite the thing for scanning the masses but nonetheless its amazing how cheap this sort of technology is becoming. On the down side,looks like they're trying to get a bill passed banning it on grounds of personal privacy, other than being used by police and security services.
 

ivoralljack

Grizzled Veteran
Staff member
I'm for a jail sentence but for a lot longer than this guy got. Trouble is his family/dependents might suffer from this if he's the bread winner. Maybe a club deduction of 10 points might do the trick then his mates and anyone else around him would make damned sure he wouldn't get anywhere near the pitch - together with a life ban of course.

As for face recognition there must be a thousand ways a determined fan could effect a disguise.
 

CroJack

Key Player
On the down side,looks like they're trying to get a bill passed banning it on grounds of personal privacy, other than being used by police and security services.
Football grounds (and areas surrounding them) are private property and the clubs can do what they want. Especially in these days when terrorist attacks are a real danger, face recognition software is a necessity.
 

Jackflash

Midfield General
Staff member
Football grounds (and areas surrounding them) are private property and the clubs can do what they want. Especially in these days when terrorist attacks are a real danger, face recognition software is a necessity.
Totally agree.
 

Jackflash

Midfield General
Staff member
I'm for a jail sentence but for a lot longer than this guy got. Trouble is his family/dependents might suffer from this if he's the bread winner. Maybe a club deduction of 10 points might do the trick then his mates and anyone else around him would make damned sure he wouldn't get anywhere near the pitch - together with a life ban of course.

As for face recognition there must be a thousand ways a determined fan could effect a disguise.
A points deduction would certainly make that large section of the B/ham fans that applauded his actions think again, especially if it cost them promotion.
 

CroJack

Key Player
Maybe a club deduction of 10 points might do the trick
I am against deduction of points because it's difficult for clubs to stop lunatics doing bad things no matter how many stewards there are inside stadiums. There have been cases in South Europe where rival fans, dressed as home fans, deliberately caused trouble, knowing that such actions would result in deduction of points for the home team. Imagine the consequences for clubs who are in a title race or relegation battle?
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
The best way to resolve this is to leverage peer pressure. So, when a person runs onto the field from a particular section of the stand, that section is required to leave the stadium and the game is held up until the section is vacated. I guarantee you anybody even thinking about running onto the field would be yanked back by people sitting around him. And, if that person had a regular seat and knew the people sitting around him, there would be retribution after the game.
 

ivoralljack

Grizzled Veteran
Staff member
I am against deduction of points because it's difficult for clubs to stop lunatics doing bad things no matter how many stewards there are inside stadiums. There have been cases in South Europe where rival fans, dressed as home fans, deliberately caused trouble, knowing that such actions would result in deduction of points for the home team. Imagine the consequences for clubs who are in a title race or relegation battle?
I'd considered that, CJ. But a points deduction would only come into force when one or more of the yobs is caught and convicted. Should said yob be from another club then that club would also face losing points. As @Yankee_Jack said, this would invite peer pressure and the fans would do their own policing.
 

Yankee_Jack

Key Player
What happened yesterday at the end of the City game. Did we have a set of morons .... were they from City’s fans or our own.
 
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