Botti Biabi has signed a new one year contract and immediately been sent on a season long loan to Macclesfield, under manager Sol Campbell. Should be good experience for the lad.
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Borini
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Yes, give him a few games next year then sell him cheap.
lliwt yr lavac
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Let’s not forget that even James’ loan spell failed........
31/8/17
“Shrewsbury Town can confirm that Dan James’ loan spell has been terminated by mutual consent and he will return to Swansea City.
Dan joined Town on-loan from Swansea this summer, but he hasn’t been able to force his way into Paul Hurst’s side.
The club would like to thank Dan for his hard work and dedication during his time with the club.”
...but let’s wish Biabi luck and the experience will be vital.
31/8/17
“Shrewsbury Town can confirm that Dan James’ loan spell has been terminated by mutual consent and he will return to Swansea City.
Dan joined Town on-loan from Swansea this summer, but he hasn’t been able to force his way into Paul Hurst’s side.
The club would like to thank Dan for his hard work and dedication during his time with the club.”
...but let’s wish Biabi luck and the experience will be vital.
Yankee_Jack
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I'm not a big fan of sending our players to the lower league clubs. Their football model is not our football model. We groom players for years to play our way .... or rather our U-23 way ... the way our first team played from Monk forward was hardly our way. Then we ship them on loan to a clogger team playing in a clogger league ... teams that our U-21 side beat in the FA Trophy etc ... and we expect them to fit into that. It's never likely to work - it's oil and water - and a disservice to our players IMO.
Borini
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https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport...wansea-citys-contract-concerns-every-15786849
Looks like we will be relegated at the end of 2019/20.
Looks like we will be relegated at the end of 2019/20.
Reading that Pep Clotet at Birmingham is interested in signing Jeff Montero having known him from the Monk era. Don't know what to make of this because, now we've lost Dan James, Montero could be a big asset we need at our present level. That said, I'm talking about a FIT Montero and how often has he been fit? So, on balance, reluctantly I would say that perhaps it's better for Jeff to move on and let another team take a chance on his fitness. No doubt losing his salary would be a help and we might even get a small transfer fee for him.
CroJack
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This ^^^
Knowing our luck and him being under a different physio he'll probably be game fit for the season.
I still have regrets at 'giving away' Bafe Gomis. A goal machine who had the misfortune to be under MONKS management. his goal tally is as follows.
Swansea City...….. 64 appearances ……….. 13 Goals.
Marseille (loan)…. 32 " " " ………….20 Goals
Galatasaray ……… 33 " " " ………...….29 Goals
Al Hilai……………….26 " " "......……...19 Goals
Actually I think his goal tally under Monk was in single figures.
I still have regrets at 'giving away' Bafe Gomis. A goal machine who had the misfortune to be under MONKS management. his goal tally is as follows.
Swansea City...….. 64 appearances ……….. 13 Goals.
Marseille (loan)…. 32 " " " ………….20 Goals
Galatasaray ……… 33 " " " ………...….29 Goals
Al Hilai……………….26 " " "......……...19 Goals
Actually I think his goal tally under Monk was in single figures.
CroJack
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I wouldn't take that risk. Dyer and Routs can easily score 5+ goals and have 5+ assists per season each. Montero has scored 5 goals during 8 years of his European career. Less than one goal per season is a criminal stats for a winger. I wouldn't criticise him for not scoring goals if he was durable and if he could provide 15-20 assists per season. Get rid. We can't afford a player who plays 300 minutes of football per season.
I agree CJ, just putting a little emphasis on things that come back and bite us on the arse lately.
Behindthegoal
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The stats are depressing. But you can touch the crowd's expectation when he gets the ball. When he's playing he's always a guaranteed outball for the creative midfielders. Celina loved him and I reckon he would lap up the kind of passes Grimes fed to Dan James last term. It would make my day if the manager takes a shine to him (and the staff can keep him fit).
There's little doubt that a fit Montero would be a hell of an asset to us this season but that word "FIT" is the killer.
CroJack
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No doubt about it.
Too many have tried and failed to keep him fit. He can't even last for 20 minutes x 46 games. If he could I would be first to say keep him as an impact sub.
I think we've been here before CJ.and would seem our definition of a winger are miles apart. I think the word 'winger' speaks for itself, as does the word striker. To me a winger has one job to do. Draw defenders and put in a cross, we have 4 or 5 infield players to do the scoring and if he's in there as well who supplies them. His job is to stay wide and drag defenders out of the box, when fit a job Montero does remarkably well, being 2man marked 90% of the time.
I think I've mentioned this before, Sir Stanley Mathews,the only player to have been knighted whilst still playing the game, scored just 17 goals in his 15 year career in the first division. Without doubt probably the best winger this country has ever seen, Any 1st Div club would have broke the bank to have his services, but none of it would have been for his scoring ability, pretty much the same could be said for Tom Finney.They were what they were, wingers, plying their skills up and down the lines. In Montero's case I'm pretty sure the fanbase are more than happy with his performances if as we say he could be kept fit. With the traditional wingers game he plays I think it's unfair to be critical of him for not scoring.
Some good debate here with sound opinion on both sides. But I have to say that Tom Finney was more in the mould of what @CroJack likes from his wingers in that he scored a lot of goals often coming inside to do it. He got 187 goals in 433 league games and 30 international goals in 76 games. Stanley Matthews was no less effective but an entirely different animal to Finney in that, as @Jackflash said, he was a creator of goals par excellence and will be revered as one of the all time greats of football despite not scoring that many goals. You pays your money and all that but, as much as I like Montero, he's nowhere near their class. That said, he is obviously more Matthews ( remember that fabulous 'Matthews' cup final Blackpool v Bolton?) than Finney. Enjoying your posts and opinions on this, guys.
I agree Ivor, he was more of a goal scorer, but worth remembering he was not always a winger,his early days saw him play as an inside forward, he actually played in all five forward positions for Preston, and in 1957 a new manager relieved him of his winger duties to play a deep lying centre forward role, and scored some 70 goals in the preceding two and a half seasons, a period when Finney himself said he played the best football of his career.
Mathews on the other hand was an out and out winger who would hug the touchline for 90 minutes.
The Mathews Final, yes, albeit on a 12inch black & white telly, never to be forgotten.
I thought Jimmy the Hunch played more on the right wing. But I certainly remember them both particularly Jimmy who scored a few goals for us including one in the semi final of the FA Cup. But I'm sure that all who saw them would vote for Cliff Jones and Lenny Allchurch as our best ever wing pairing. Because of Ivor, Len was frequently undervalued but he was so good that Terry Medwin, a specialist right winger who went on to play in the Spurs double winning team, had to play at centre forward for us. Good enough for Spurs but not good enough to get in our team on the wing.
